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mmn: @andresinmp Direct Messages currently don't federate in !GNUsocial. If...

@andresinmp Direct Messages currently don't federate in !GNUsocial. If we're going to adapt to #Diaspora's flavour of !ostatus we will get encrypted transfer of private messages between nodes. That...

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r7: @mmn one word: zot

@mmn one word: zot

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mmn: Has #zot been peer reviewed by experienced cryptographers and security...

Has #zot been peer reviewed by experienced cryptographers and security specialists yet? I had some glances on the protocol spec but didn't feel very comfortable. But I'm not a security or cryptography...

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dragnucs: @manuel@lamatriz.org because XMPP is well federated.

@manuel@lamatriz.org because XMPP is well federated.

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r7: @mmn i don't know, but i've asked the question: https://indy.im/url/5765266

@mmn i don't know, but i've asked the question: https://indy.im/url/5765266

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andresinmp: @diegogz@quitter.se @mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se...

@diegogz@quitter.se @mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se @manuel@lamatriz.org ok. All you just said goes over my head. Thanks and keep up the good work. Glad this @fsf project is in good hands, another...

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mmn: @diegogz Do what with LibreJS code? I think javascript is a horrible...

@diegogz Do what with LibreJS code? I think javascript is a horrible language and even worse when used in web browsers.

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mmn: @sergiodj Gnome Shell etc. uses javascript, afaik without random remote...

@sergiodj Gnome Shell etc. uses javascript, afaik without random remote connection capabilities and untrusted eval() executions. That is more ok than sneaky stalking, remote resource fetching and...

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mmn: @diegogz Never trust javascript todo crypto. How about actual...

@diegogz Never trust javascript todo crypto. How about actual applications? You know, underneith your browser you've got a _real_ operating system...

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r7: @mmn afaik gnusocial doesn't enforce encryption [fx:...

@mmn afaik gnusocial doesn't enforce encryption [fx: https://indy.im/url/5758307] so why is this such a showstopping issue?

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r7: @r7 and if it is such a concern, red hubs are also openid providers or am...

@r7 and if it is such a concern, red hubs are also openid providers or am i misunderstanding your issue?

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mmn: @aroque I think @mike holds a grudge to previous #StatusNet dev team....

@aroque I think @mike holds a grudge to previous #StatusNet dev team. Apparently they had strifes. I think they're doing good work with #RedMatrix for a different use-case than for !gnusocial. There...

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mmn: @r7 I'm not sure what you mean would be a showstopper. I was just...

@r7 I'm not sure what you mean would be a showstopper. I was just pointing out that crypto in the web browser cannot be trusted because you cannot trust the messenger (I have no reason to believe that...

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r7: @mmn mike & evan disagreed on some stuff, but mike doesn't strike me as...

@mmn mike & evan disagreed on some stuff, but mike doesn't strike me as holding a grudge | mike has a *very very long* track record of developing core technologies for the internet | i personally...

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mmn: The "grudge" comment was based on @mike's comment in the question...

The "grudge" comment was based on @mike's comment in the question thread, https://social.umeahackerspace.se/url/29117"I just find it hilarious that we get so much critique from statusnet/gnusocial"....

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yvolk: @manuel@lamatriz.org My view as an observer looking from a client...

@manuel@lamatriz.org My view as an observer looking from a client side, is that the hardest part is to make that exchanges of "status update messages" informative enough to ensure unique identification...

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andresinmp: @mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se third party could be like openBSD...

@mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se third party could be like openBSD people looked into the heartbleed or how whispersystems person reviewed telegram. Right? as long as the meta data shared is less than...

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yvolk: @manuel@lamatriz.org Thank you for a very interesting view on GNU...

@manuel@lamatriz.org Thank you for a very interesting view on GNU Social federation and its usage. The article reminded me "Security through obscurity" approach :-) but anyway I could look at GNU...

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pskosinski: @manuel@lamatriz.org I still say that it's a bug, not feature. If...

@manuel@lamatriz.org I still say that it's a bug, not feature. If everyone besides me trusts "A" and s/he replies to a conversation I'm taking part in everyone besides me will see that reply. Then...

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yvolk: @manuel@lamatriz.org Yes, I understood you. I often find interesting...

@manuel@lamatriz.org Yes, I understood you. I often find interesting for me to know, what wrote _all_ people, who took part in a conversation, which I encountered. In this moment I would like to ask a...

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